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It's time to claim our Peace Dividend

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We need to beat swords into plowshares.

We need to beat swords into plowshares.

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http://peaceandsocialjustice.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-progressive-program-for-real-change.html


What we need is a "21st Century Full Employment Act for Peace and Prosperity" which would make it a mandatory requirement that the president and Congress attain and maintain full employment.


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Saturday, July 19, 2008

A dangerous threat to Social Security linked to proposed "carbon tax" from Al Gore

Please distribute this widely to all your e-mail lists and list serves so Al Gore's speech gets the kind of discussion these ideas deserve in a democracy.

Here is Al Gore's entire speech on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt9wZloG97U

Just click, watch and listen.


My response to Al Gore's speech


The time has come to start talking about the politics and economics of livelihood... working class politics.

Al Gore has proposed that the solution for keeping Social Security solvent is to fund it with a "carbon tax."

Think about this: The idea behind the "carbon tax" is to end pollution... as carbon emissions decline, so will revenue from the "carbon tax."

Social Security should continue to be funded from the sources that are taxed right now... any change jeopardizes the very existence of Social Security.

If anything, Social Security taxes on the employers needs to be increased.

This idea of creating a "carbon tax" to fund social programs like Social Security is a very regressive and reactionary idea aimed at destroying the best progressive social program we have in this country--- Social Security.

Contrary to Al Gore's reactionary neoliberal thinking on this question, wealth should be taxed... and wealth should be taxed to the hilt to pay for universal social programs like Social Security.

Should there be a "carbon tax?" You bet, and the "carbon tax" should be so stiff that it forces real action.

However, there are other methods, working in conjunction with this proposed "carbon tax" which will get better results quicker; quicker than Al Gore is suggesting for a time frame.

Again, contrary to Gore's claim, he has provided no real solutions to global warming.

Gore talked about switching out incandescent light-bulbs--- Wal-mart is making big profits from people switching out their incandescent light-bulbs; Hugo Chavez is providing millions of new bulbs for free... again, the capitalists profit at the expense of people; socialism provides real solutions to help people and the environment.

Al Gore's proposals will see tax-payers subsidize the multi-national corporations and Wall Street coupon clippers and Wall Street entrepreneurs... if the decision-making process is left to Gore and Obama, workers will continue to lose jobs, the new "green" jobs will pay poverty wages, and poverty will worsen.

Shifting industrial production overseas where we can't see what is going up into the clouds is no solution.

The source of funding for Social Security is just where it belongs right now… the only reform in funding required is to drastically increase the burden on employers so Social Security will provide all those in retirement a real living income; and, retirement age should be reduced to 50 so that the millions of unemployed will have jobs so they continue to build-up the Social Security fund… unemployed people contribute nothing towards Social Security; apparently mercury emissions have retarded thinking among some politicians.

There is nothing wrong with Social Security that full-employment wouldn’t solve. Plain old common sense tells us that millions of unemployed workers are not contributing to Social Security--- neither are employers paying into the Social Security fund for unemployed workers. Unemployment is killing social security. The work week needs to be cut to 32 hours while paying all workers real living wages.

The minimum wage needs to be raised to a real living wage based upon the calculations of the United States Department of Labor's calculations for a real living wage. Raising the minimum wage will result in greater funding for the Social Security fund.

Social Security should derive its funding from the point nearest where wealth is being created; not where wealth is being destroyed.

A “carbon tax” should be placed on each and every corporation and industry, including a very heavy carbon tax on any industry using coal, gas and oil; this tax should be used to finance the creation of new clean, green industries being proposed by Barack Obama.

In fact, if these industries were threatened with nationalization and public ownership we would see more rapid compliance than with the threat of taxes or fines.

What is really bizarre is that Al Gore and Barack Obama have been completely silent when it comes to what kind of concrete action is required to save closing auto plants like the St. Paul Ford Twin Cities Assembly Plant… ironically, this present clean, green manufacturing operation would pay no Social Security taxes at all under the Gore proposal supported by Barack Obama. Obama supports this hare-brained scheme like that advocated by Al Gore to finance Social Security; but he has not raised his voice to save the jobs of two-thousand auto-workers, who, with their employer are paying into Social Security in a very big way… Do Al Gore and Barack Obama support the capitalist scheme to close the St. Paul Ford Plant Twin Cities Assembly Plant, place a hydro dam powering the operation into the hands of a private foreign corporation, and shipping these two-thousand jobs to Thailand… this is really a boon to Social Security, isn’t it?

At some point there has to be some accountability from politicians like Al Gore and Barack Obama--- this is not a one-way street; in return for votes, politicians have to be taught to listen respectfully to working people with an eye towards solving problems in favor of working people and their standard of living and livelihoods.

How much will carbon emissions increase when the Ford Motor Company brings its new Ford Ranger plant in Thailand into full production once they begin shipping to North America? How much will the Ford Motor Company contribute towards the U.S. Social Security fund from "carbon taxes" on its operations in Thailand… The same amount they will pay into Social Security in Thailand--- absolutely nothing. Al Gore and Barack Obama have not considered this.

Why not nationalize any corporation that doesn’t meet Gore’s proposed guidelines?

Alan Greenspan is laughing like heck over all the dates set way into the future at which point these industries will have to come into compliance with carbon emission and pollution standards… Greenspan figures by these far distant dates established for compliance by these dirty industries, they will have been replaced with new technologies paid for compliments of U.S. tax-payers and the impoverishment of the working class in North America.

We could force 100% compliance with carbon emission and pollution standards in five years, instead of fifty, if these industries were threatened with nationalization for lack of compliance with clean air and water standards.

Again, transferring funding for Social Security from its present base of "wealth" to deriving revenue from a "carbon tax" is not the way to go.

Barack Obama and Al Gore propose that tax-payers fund this "new green economy" creating an entirely new industry and subsidizing corporations to the hilt... to the tune of trillions upon trillions of dollars; what tax-payers finance, tax-payers must own... including a share of the profits the equivalent of tax-payer funding. We must introduce this new kind of thinking into the political process right at the initial beginning stage.

Al Gore talks about tax-payers subsidizing the auto industry for the production of electric cars... fine, but tax-payers need to become joint owners of these subsidized corporations.

Al Gore talks about solving the problems of poverty... bottom line: Poverty cannot be ended as long as workers are paid poverty wages.

Modern state-monopoly capitalism has concocted these neoliberal schemes to confuse working people while standards of living are driven down through such schemes; before workers know what has hit them the damage is done. Workers create all wealth... the working class' standard of living must rise along with this "new clean, green industry."

The time has come for working people to assert themselves into the decision making process in a very vocal and decisive manner. Keeping quiet until after Election Day is not the answer. Speak up now.

Nancy Pelosi and Al Gore have finally come to the conclusion that the last eight years of the Bush Administration have been a complete failure. Well, we know from experience Democrats have not done any better so we better get busy and participate in this discussion, dialogue and debate.

Al Gore talks about "bold solutions" to our problems... Al Gore and Barack Obama need to be coerced to consider the bold solutions suggested here.

Al Gore is right in talking about how the war in Iraq is related to the problems related to global warming... however, Al Gore fails to understand that this drive to war is part and parcel of the imperialism's drive for maximum profits--- this insane drive for maximum profits is the source of our problems.

The capitalist system is on the skids to oblivion... do you want to stand by and see your families and your country dragged down with this rotten system as it crashes? Make no mistake, the system is crashing and we are the victims.

Gore has come up with a cute little rhyme: "We should tax what we burn; not what we earn." This is a simple minded perverse logic excluding corporate profits from the scheme of things. Al Gore conveniently ignores the fact that all wealth is created by labor; he also ignores the little fact that capitalists steal this wealth created by labor.

Al Gore would have us confuse this corporate wealth with what we "earn" in the form of our pay-checks. Wealth should be taxed... in addition to what the capitalists burn... most of us don't burn much of anything except a few paper bags and old newspapers.

We had this consumer society forced upon us; we had no part in the decision making process and we had better learn the lesson real quick that we shouldn't allow Al Gore and Barack Obama to allow a bunch of capitalists to do our thinking for us because humanity might not get another chance to collectively think these problems through if Al Gore's prognosis is correct, which I think it is... for delivering the warning Al Gore deserves a lot of credit... however, this doesn't give him and Barack Obama the right to force solutions on us without our participation.

Something to think about while sitting around the dinner table.

Alan L. Maki

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Below is the New York Times coverage of Al Gore's speech which is followed by the speech itself.

New York Times coverage of Al Gore's speech:

Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/18/washington/18gorecnd.html

Gore Calls for Carbon-Free Electric Power


By DAVID STOUT
Published: July 18, 2008

WASHINGTON — Former Vice President Al Gore said on Thursday that Americans must abandon electricity generated by fossil fuels within a decade and rely on the sun, the winds and other environmentally friendly sources of power, or risk losing their national security as well as their creature comforts.

Brendan Smialowski for The New York Times
Al Gore spoke about energy policy in Washington on Thursday.

“The survival of the United States of America as we know it is at risk,” Mr. Gore said in a speech to an energy conference here. “The future of human civilization is at stake.”
Mr. Gore called for the kind of concerted national effort that enabled Americans to walk on the moon 39 years ago this month, just eight years after President John F. Kennedy famously embraced that goal. He said the goal of producing all of the nation’s electricity from “renewable energy and truly clean, carbon-free sources” within 10 years is not some farfetched vision, although he said it would require fundamental changes in political thinking and personal expectations.

“This goal is achievable, affordable and transformative,” Mr. Gore said in his remarks at the conference. “It represents a challenge to all Americans, in every walk of life — to our political leaders, entrepreneurs, innovators, engineers, and to every citizen.”

Although Mr. Gore has made global warming and energy conservation his signature issues, winning a Nobel Prize for his efforts, his speech on Thursday argued that the reasons for renouncing fossil fuels go far beyond concern for the climate.

In it, he cited military-intelligence studies warning of “dangerous national security implications” tied to climate change, including the possibility of “hundreds of millions of climate refugees” causing instability around the world, and said the United States is dangerously vulnerable because of its reliance on foreign oil.

Doubtless aware that his remarks would be met with skepticism, or even ridicule, in some quarters, Mr. Gore insisted in his speech that the goal of carbon-free power is not only achievable but practical, and that businesses would embrace it once they saw that it made fundamental economic sense.

Mr. Gore said the most important policy change in the transformation would be taxes on carbon dioxide production, with an accompanying reduction in payroll taxes. “We should tax what we burn, not what we earn,” he said.

The former vice president said in his speech that he could not recall a worse confluence of problems facing the country: higher gasoline prices, jobs being “outsourced,” the home mortgage industry in turmoil. “Meanwhile, the war in Iraq continues, and now the war in Afghanistan appears to be getting worse,” he said.

By calling for new political leadership and speaking disdainfully of “defenders of the status quo,” Mr. Gore was hurling a dart at the man who defeated him for the presidency in 2000, George W. Bush. Critics of Mr. Bush say that his policies are too often colored by his background in the oil business.

A crucial shortcoming in the country’s political leadership is a failure to view interlocking problems as basically one problem that is “deeply ironic in its simplicity,” Mr. Gore said, namely “our dangerous over-reliance on carbon-based fuels.”

“We’re borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet,” Mr. Gore said. “Every bit of that’s got to change.”

And it can change, he said, citing some scientists’ estimates that enough solar energy falls on the surface of the earth in 40 minutes to meet the world’s energy needs for a year, and that the winds that blow across the Midwest every day could meet the country’s daily electricity needs.

Senator Barack Obama of Illinois, the presumptive Democratic candidate for president, immediately praised Mr. Gore’s speech. “For decades, Al Gore has challenged the skeptics in Washington on climate change and awakened the conscience of a nation to the urgency of this threat,” Mr. Obama said.

A shift away from fossil fuels would make the United States a leader instead of a sometime rebel on energy and conservation issues worldwide, Mr. Gore said. Nor, he said, would the hard work of people who toil on oil rigs and deep in the earth be for naught. “We should guarantee good jobs in the fresh air and sunshine for any coal miner displaced by impacts on the coal industry,” he said by way of example. “Every single one of them.”

“Of course, there are those who will tell us that this can’t be done,” he conceded. “But even those who reap the profits of the carbon age have to recognize the inevitability of its demise. As one OPEC oil minister observed, ‘The Stone Age didn’t end because of a shortage of stones.’ ”

The Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens said in a statement that Mr. Gore’s plan would still not address “the stranglehold that foreign oil has on our country.” Mr. Pickens has called for a blend of government leadership and private enterprise to harness the full potential of wind power to help break what he calls “our deadly addiction to foreign oil.”



This is Al Gore's actual speech

July 17, 2008

A Generational Challenge to Repower America (as prepared)

D.A.R. Constitution Hall

Washington, D.C.

Ladies and gentlemen:

There are times in the history of our nation when our very way of life depends upon dispelling illusions and awakening to the challenge of a present danger. In such moments, we are called upon to move quickly and boldly to shake off complacency, throw aside old habits and rise, clear-eyed and alert, to the necessity of big changes. Those who, for whatever reason, refuse to do their part must either be persuaded to join the effort or asked to step aside. This is such a moment. The survival of the United States of America as we know it is at risk. And even more – if more should be required – the future of human civilization is at stake.

I don’t remember a time in our country when so many things seemed to be going so wrong simultaneously. Our economy is in terrible shape and getting worse, gasoline prices are increasing dramatically, and so are electricity rates. Jobs are being outsourced. Home mortgages are in trouble. Banks, automobile companies and other institutions we depend upon are under growing pressure. Distinguished senior business leaders are telling us that this is just the beginning unless we find the courage to make some major changes quickly.

The climate crisis, in particular, is getting a lot worse – much more quickly than predicted. Scientists with access to data from Navy submarines traversing underneath the North polar ice cap have warned that there is now a 75 percent chance that within five years the entire ice cap will completely disappear during the summer months. This will further increase the melting pressure on Greenland. According to experts, the Jakobshavn glacier, one of Greenland’s largest, is moving at a faster rate than ever before, losing 20 million tons of ice every day, equivalent to the amount of water used every year by the residents of New York City.

Two major studies from military intelligence experts have warned our leaders about the dangerous national security implications of the climate crisis, including the possibility of hundreds of millions of climate refugees destabilizing nations around the world.

Just two days ago, 27 senior statesmen and retired military leaders warned of the national security threat from an "energy tsunami" that would be triggered by a loss of our access to foreign oil. Meanwhile, the war in Iraq continues, and now the war in Afghanistan appears to be getting worse.

And by the way, our weather sure is getting strange, isn’t it? There seem to be more tornadoes than in living memory, longer droughts, bigger downpours and record floods. Unprecedented fires are burning in California and elsewhere in the American West. Higher temperatures lead to drier vegetation that makes kindling for mega-fires of the kind that have been raging in Canada, Greece, Russia, China, South America, Australia and Africa. Scientists in the Department of Geophysics and Planetary Science at Tel Aviv University tell us that for every one degree increase in temperature, lightning strikes will go up another 10 percent. And it is lightning, after all, that is principally responsible for igniting the conflagration in California today.

Like a lot of people, it seems to me that all these problems are bigger than any of the solutions that have thus far been proposed for them, and that’s been worrying me.

I’m convinced that one reason we’ve seemed paralyzed in the face of these crises is our tendency to offer old solutions to each crisis separately – without taking the others into account. And these outdated proposals have not only been ineffective – they almost always make the other crises even worse.

Yet when we look at all three of these seemingly intractable challenges at the same time, we can see the common thread running through them, deeply ironic in its simplicity: our dangerous over-reliance on carbon-based fuels is at the core of all three of these challenges – the economic, environmental and national security crises.

We’re borrowing money from China to buy oil from the Persian Gulf to burn it in ways that destroy the planet. Every bit of that’s got to change.

But if we grab hold of that common thread and pull it hard, all of these complex problems begin to unravel and we will find that we’re holding the answer to all of them right in our hand.

The answer is to end our reliance on carbon-based fuels.

In my search for genuinely effective answers to the climate crisis, I have held a series of "solutions summits" with engineers, scientists, and CEOs. In those discussions, one thing has become abundantly clear: when you connect the dots, it turns out that the real solutions to the climate crisis are the very same measures needed to renew our economy and escape the trap of ever-rising energy prices. Moreover, they are also the very same solutions we need to guarantee our national security without having to go to war in the Persian Gulf.

What if we could use fuels that are not expensive, don't cause pollution and are abundantly available right here at home?

We have such fuels. Scientists have confirmed that enough solar energy falls on the surface of the earth every 40 minutes to meet 100 percent of the entire world’s energy needs for a full year. Tapping just a small portion of this solar energy could provide all of the electricity America uses.

And enough wind power blows through the Midwest corridor every day to also meet 100 percent of US electricity demand. Geothermal energy, similarly, is capable of providing enormous supplies of electricity for America.

The quickest, cheapest and best way to start using all this renewable energy is in the production of electricity. In fact, we can start right now using solar power, wind power and geothermal power to make electricity for our homes and businesses.

But to make this exciting potential a reality, and truly solve our nation’s problems, we need a new start.

That’s why I’m proposing today a strategic initiative designed to free us from the crises that are holding us down and to regain control of our own destiny. It’s not the only thing we need to do. But this strategic challenge is the lynchpin of a bold new strategy needed to re-power America.

Today I challenge our nation to commit to producing 100 percent of our electricity from renewable energy and truly clean carbon-free sources within 10 years.

This goal is achievable, affordable and transformative. It represents a challenge to all Americans – in every walk of life: to our political leaders, entrepreneurs, innovators, engineers, and to every citizen.

A few years ago, it would not have been possible to issue such a challenge. But here’s what’s changed: the sharp cost reductions now beginning to take place in solar, wind, and geothermal power – coupled with the recent dramatic price increases for oil and coal – have radically changed the economics of energy.

When I first went to Congress 32 years ago, I listened to experts testify that if oil ever got to $35 a barrel, then renewable sources of energy would become competitive. Well, today, the price of oil is over $135 per barrel. And sure enough, billions of dollars of new investment are flowing into the development of concentrated solar thermal, photovoltaics, windmills, geothermal plants, and a variety of ingenious new ways to improve our efficiency and conserve presently wasted energy.

And as the demand for renewable energy grows, the costs will continue to fall. Let me give you one revealing example: the price of the specialized silicon used to make solar cells was recently as high as $300 per kilogram. But the newest contracts have prices as low as $50 a kilogram.

You know, the same thing happened with computer chips – also made out of silicon. The price paid for the same performance came down by 50 percent every 18 months – year after year, and that’s what’s happened for 40 years in a row.

To those who argue that we do not yet have the technology to accomplish these results with renewable energy: I ask them to come with me to meet the entrepreneurs who will drive this revolution. I’ve seen what they are doing and I have no doubt that we can meet this challenge.

To those who say the costs are still too high: I ask them to consider whether the costs of oil and coal will ever stop increasing if we keep relying on quickly depleting energy sources to feed a rapidly growing demand all around the world. When demand for oil and coal increases, their price goes up. When demand for solar cells increases, the price often comes down.

When we send money to foreign countries to buy nearly 70 percent of the oil we use every day, they build new skyscrapers and we lose jobs. When we spend that money building solar arrays and windmills, we build competitive industries and gain jobs here at home.

Of course there are those who will tell us this can't be done. Some of the voices we hear are the defenders of the status quo – the ones with a vested interest in perpetuating the current system, no matter how high a price the rest of us will have to pay. But even those who reap the profits of the carbon age have to recognize the inevitability of its demise. As one OPEC oil minister observed, "The Stone Age didn’t end because of a shortage of stones."

To those who say 10 years is not enough time, I respectfully ask them to consider what the world's scientists are telling us about the risks we face if we don’t act in 10 years. The leading experts predict that we have less than 10 years to make dramatic changes in our global warming pollution lest we lose our ability to ever recover from this environmental crisis. When the use of oil and coal goes up, pollution goes up. When the use of solar, wind and geothermal increases, pollution comes down.

To those who say the challenge is not politically viable: I suggest they go before the American people and try to defend the status quo. Then bear witness to the people's appetite for change.

I for one do not believe our country can withstand 10 more years of the status quo. Our families cannot stand 10 more years of gas price increases. Our workers cannot stand 10 more years of job losses and outsourcing of factories. Our economy cannot stand 10 more years of sending $2 billion every 24 hours to foreign countries for oil. And our soldiers and their families cannot take another 10 years of repeated troop deployments to dangerous regions that just happen to have large oil supplies.

What could we do instead for the next 10 years? What should we do during the next 10 years? Some of our greatest accomplishments as a nation have resulted from commitments to reach a goal that fell well beyond the next election: the Marshall Plan, Social Security, the interstate highway system. But a political promise to do something

40 years from now is universally ignored because everyone knows that it’s meaningless. Ten years is about the maximum time that we as a nation can hold a steady aim and hit our target.

When President John F. Kennedy challenged our nation to land a man on the moon and bring him back safely in 10 years, many people doubted we could accomplish that goal. But 8 years and 2 months later, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin walked on the surface of the moon.

To be sure, reaching the goal of 100 percent renewable and truly clean electricity within 10 years will require us to overcome many obstacles. At present, for example, we do not have a unified national grid that is sufficiently advanced to link the areas where the sun shines and the wind blows to the cities in the East and the West that need the electricity. Our national electric grid is critical infrastructure, as vital to the health and security of our economy as our highways and telecommunication networks. Today, our grids are antiquated, fragile, and vulnerable to cascading failure. Power outages and defects in the current grid system cost US businesses more than $120 billion dollars a year. It has to be upgraded anyway.

We could further increase the value and efficiency of a Unified National Grid by helping our struggling auto giants switch to the manufacture of plug-in electric cars. An electric vehicle fleet would sharply reduce the cost of driving a car, reduce pollution, and increase the flexibility of our electricity grid.

At the same time, of course, we need to greatly improve our commitment to efficiency and conservation. That’s the best investment we can make.

America's transition to renewable energy sources must also include adequate provisions to assist those Americans who would unfairly face hardship. For example, we must recognize those who have toiled in dangerous conditions to bring us our present energy supply. We should guarantee good jobs in the fresh air and sunshine for any coal miner displaced by impacts on the coal industry. Every single one of them.

Of course, we could and should speed up this transition by insisting that the price of carbon-based energy include the costs of the environmental damage it causes. I have long supported a sharp reduction in payroll taxes with the difference made up in CO2 taxes. We should tax what we burn, not what we earn. This is the single most important policy change we can make.

In order to foster international cooperation, it is also essential that the United States rejoin the global community and lead efforts to secure an international treaty at Copenhagen in December of next year that includes a cap on CO2 emissions and a global partnership that recognizes the necessity of addressing the threats of extreme poverty and disease as part of the world’s agenda for solving the climate crisis.

Of course the greatest obstacle to meeting the challenge of 100 percent renewable electricity in 10 years may be the deep dysfunction of our politics and our self-governing system as it exists today. In recent years, our politics has tended toward incremental proposals made up of small policies designed to avoid offending special interests, alternating with occasional baby steps in the right direction. Our democracy has become sclerotic at a time when these crises require boldness.

It is only a truly dysfunctional system that would buy into the perverse logic that the short-term answer to high gasoline prices is drilling for more oil ten years from now.

Am I the only one who finds it strange that our government so often adopts a so-called solution that has absolutely nothing to do with the problem it is supposed to address? When people rightly complain about higher gasoline prices, we propose to give more money to the oil companies and pretend that they’re going to bring gasoline prices down. It will do nothing of the sort, and everyone knows it. If we keep going back to the same policies that have never ever worked in the past and have served only to produce the highest gasoline prices in history alongside the greatest oil company profits in history, nobody should be surprised if we get the same result over and over again. But the Congress may be poised to move in that direction anyway because some of them are being stampeded by lobbyists for special interests that know how to make the system work for them instead of the American people.

If you want to know the truth about gasoline prices, here it is: the exploding demand for oil, especially in places like China, is overwhelming the rate of new discoveries by so much that oil prices are almost certain to continue upward over time no matter what the oil companies promise. And politicians cannot bring gasoline prices down in the short term.

However, there actually is one extremely effective way to bring the costs of driving a car way down within a few short years. The way to bring gas prices down is to end our dependence on oil and use the renewable sources that can give us the equivalent of $1 per gallon gasoline.

Many Americans have begun to wonder whether or not we’ve simply lost our appetite for bold policy solutions. And folks who claim to know how our system works these days have told us we might as well forget about our political system doing anything bold, especially if it is contrary to the wishes of special interests. And I’ve got to admit, that sure seems to be the way things have been going. But I’ve begun to hear different voices in this country from people who are not only tired of baby steps and special interest politics, but are hungry for a new, different and bold approach.

We are on the eve of a presidential election. We are in the midst of an international climate treaty process that will conclude its work before the end of the first year of the new president's term. It is a great error to say that the United States must wait for others to join us in this matter. In fact, we must move first, because that is the key to getting others to follow; and because moving first is in our own national interest.

So I ask you to join with me to call on every candidate, at every level, to accept this challenge – for America to be running on 100 percent zero-carbon electricity in 10 years. It's time for us to move beyond empty rhetoric. We need to act now.

This is a generational moment. A moment when we decide our own path and our collective fate. I'm asking you – each of you – to join me and build this future. Please join the WE campaign at wecansolveit.org. We need you. And we need you now. We're committed to changing not just light bulbs, but laws. And laws will only change with leadership.

On July 16, 1969, the United States of America was finally ready to meet President Kennedy’s challenge of landing Americans on the moon. I will never forget standing beside my father a few miles from the launch site, waiting for the giant Saturn 5 rocket to lift Apollo 11 into the sky. I was a young man, 21 years old, who had graduated from college a month before and was enlisting in the United States Army three weeks later.

I will never forget the inspiration of those minutes. The power and the vibration of the giant rocket’s engines shook my entire body. As I watched the rocket rise, slowly at first and then with great speed, the sound was deafening. We craned our necks to follow its path until we were looking straight up into the air. And then four days later, I watched along with hundreds of millions of others around the world as Neil Armstrong took one small step to the surface of the moon and changed the history of the human race.

We must now lift our nation to reach another goal that will change history. Our entire civilization depends upon us now embarking on a new journey of exploration and discovery. Our success depends on our willingness as a people to undertake this journey and to complete it within 10 years. Once again, we have an opportunity to take a giant leap for humankind.

Friday, July 18, 2008

I join you in wishing Nelson Mandela a 90th Happy Birthday

Alan,

Your Happy Birthday wishes to Nelson Mandela and comments about poverty are right on the mark.

I join you and millions of people around the world wishing Nelson Mandela a Happy 90th Birthday.

I would add one thing; Nelson Mandela is one heck of a man to have endured so many years of repression and he still has the humanity to suggest to the multi-national corporations they need to return the wealth they have stolen from the people of South Africa because as anyone can see the workers of South Africa are organizing to take what rightfully belongs to them.

Those greedy people who have become filthy rich by creating so much misery for so many people are once again ignoring the warnings Mandela is giving to them by suggesting they should use their wealth to fight poverty.

No doubt these greedy capitalists are going to push South African workers to take what they are entitled to.

In my opinion, the struggle against apartheid was just a dress rehearsal for the struggle to come.

I have been to South Africa a number of times and I could just feel the revolution that is brewing.

Mandela has given these greedy capitalists fair warning; just as he warned that racist apartheid oppression would be eliminated by the struggle of the people. They didn't listen to Mandela's plea for justice then and they won't now.

Brianna Walters
Member, NAACP

Happy 90th Birthday Nelson Mandela!

People struggling against racism & repression, for peace, freedom, social & economic justice, against capitalism & imperialism and for socialism are joining together to wish Nelson Mandela, the heroic South African freedom fighter, a happy 90th birthday.



I join in wishing Nelson Mandela a happy 90th birthday!

Mandela, in news interviews, has called on the rich to share their wealth with the poor.

People are poor and impoverished because the rich have stolen the wealth working people have created. The rich are not going to voluntarily give up any of their wealth to help the poor.


Included among the "news" reports coming from the main stream media is the false idea that Nelson Mandela, imprisoned for almost three decades for the very struggle he led for which today he is recognized as a great hero, is the totally erroneous and fabricated misinformation that Mandela was, "released in 1990 to lead negotiations that ended decades of racist white rule."

Nothing could be further from the truth; it took a very powerful international movement to free Mandela and his comrades and end the racist system of apartheid which had been kept in place by the largest multinational corporations--- from the Ford Motor Company to General Motors and international mining corporations.

South Africans are plagued by poverty today, like impoverished people everywhere, because these corporations, quite literally, "robbed them blind."

As Mandela is aware, and the main stream media refuses to report, a more powerful, more militant, more united international working class movement will be required to eradicate poverty than the movement which was required to free Mandela and put an end to apartheid.

Very powerful social and working class movements will be required in order to wrest the wealth from the rich.

We are not simply speaking of relieving the rich of their wealth and distributing this wealth to the impoverished of the world.

What we are talking about is placing the mines, mills and factories presently under the ownership of powerful Wall Street coupon clippers, bankers and investors under public ownership so what is produced is owned by society and distributed according to need.

This is the only way to end poverty; to replace capitalism with socialism.

A socialist revolution is needed... workers rising in revolution to put an end to exploitation and poverty in every land would be a fitting present for Nelson Mandela on his next birthday.






Happy birthday Nelson Mandela... we appreciate your example of courage in the struggle... we share your thoughts of socialist revolution on your 90th birthday!















































Happy 90th Birthday, Nelson Mandela!




Mandela on 90th birthday: Rich should help poor

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080718/D9206VFO0.html

Jul 18, 6:22 AM (ET)

By CELEAN JACOBSON


QUNU, South Africa (AP) - Nelson Mandela celebrated his 90th birthday Friday by calling on the wealthy to share with the less fortunate and wishing that he had been able to spend more time with his family during the anti-apartheid struggle.

In an interview at his home in rural southeastern South Africa, the anti-apartheid icon was asked if he had a message for the world.

"There are many people in South Africa who are rich and who can share those riches with those not so fortunate who have not been able to conquer poverty," Mandela said.

Sitting with his wife Graca Machel in a lounge of the large home he built in Qunu, Mandela said he was fortunate to have reached 90, but in the countryside and in the towns "poverty has gripped our people.

"If you are poor, you are not likely to live long," he said.

At one point, a granddaughter brought a bowl of flowers into the room and gave Mandela a birthday kiss. He was asked if he wished he had had more time with his family during a life spent fighting apartheid and then leading South Africa.

"I am sure for many people that is their wish," he said. "I also have that wish that I spent more time (with my family). But I don't regret it."

Mandela was imprisoned for nearly three decades for his fight against apartheid.

He was released in 1990 to lead negotiations that ended decades of racist white rule. He was elected president in South Africa's first democratic elections in 1994. He now campaigns against poverty, illiteracy and AIDS in Africa.


Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Steve Tobocman and Michigan AFL-CIO leaders are in a tizzy; they don't appreciate my advice to adjuncts living in poverty

AFL-CIO and Michigan Democratic Party leaders in Michigan are hopping mad that I gave a group of Northern Michigan University adjuncts the following advice.

State Representative Steve Tobocman, the Democratic House Floor Leader cried, "How much longer are we going to allow Maki to operate in Michigan; he isn't even a bonafide labor leader, he has no affiliation with the AFL-CIO or Change to Win."

Anyways, all this commotion just because I gave some adjuncts living in poverty in Michigan's Upper Peninsula employed at Northern Michigan University in Marquette this advice:

Check this out… This is what I was talking about how the Election can really be used by you to push for your demands:

McCain got ambushed real good by a teacher at the NAACP National Convention…

During a question-and-answer session, McCain also sought to assuage a frustrated Head Start teacher who complained that her salary from the federal program simply isn't enough.

The woman, wearing a union T-shirt, said she was making $17,000 a year and cannot afford housing, gas, food, or health care for her children. "We cannot continue this way," she said.


Full article below my comments…

You can learn from this. This teacher put Head Start teachers on the radar of every politician in this country. You can do the same.

Now, if this kind of activity is combined with an unrelenting campaign showing a couple of your families and detailing what it costs you to live, together with how much you presently make… you have a very powerful message… do what the Democrats don’t want you to do… focus on the Democrats by insisting they solve your problems by making sure you have a real living income.

[I think this Head Start teacher was wrong for focusing on McCain instead of Obama--- obviously her union was doing Obama a favor he has not earned. Lots of workers are making this mistake because the business union mentality of most “labor leaders” doesn’t allow them to “think outside the box. Democrats are going to be in power after Election Day so, what sense does it make to take your problems to McCain? More misleadership. More lack of clear thinking. And yet these same “leaders” will say Obama will be a labor President… Ya, sure, like Jennifer Granholm is Michigan’s “labor governor” and leaves you in poverty. Don’t allow a bunch of do-nothing labor leaders and do-nothing politicians to tell you to keep your mouths shut until after the Election because this will hurt Democrats--- these Democrats have not demonstrated one iota of concern for you or you wouldn’t be living in poverty right now.]

The Democrats are happy the teachers are focusing on McCain and are staying off their back. Do just the opposite and insist the Democrats fix your problem if they expect you to consider giving them your vote… you can always tell them: Solve our problem before the Election or we are telling people why we are staying home on Election Day. You better believe the Democrats don’t want a bunch of university adjuncts pushing this kind of message to the public.

Make the point: If Democrats can’t even provide 200 adjuncts at Northern Michigan University with a living income; how can we expect Democrats to solve the problems associated with poverty afflicting the entire nation?

You have a lot of power right now as this election heats up… an opportunity like this doesn’t come along very often.

Labor Day is coming up; I am sure there would be much embarrassment if you start bombarding the letters to the editors all over the UP and all the newspapers with the message: We want a living income by Labor Day or we aren’t voting.

Just say you expect a real living income in return for your vote… the corporations get plenty for their campaign contributions and all you want is a living income from these politicians.

Alan



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080717/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_naacp_14;_ylt=Au2wOiTomdzj7GDFG4m1UL5h24cA



McCain at NAACP pledges more education options

By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer



CINCINNATI - John McCain told the NAACP and some skeptical black voters Wednesday that he will expand education opportunities, partly through vouchers for low-income children to attend private school.


The likely Republican presidential nominee addressed the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the nation's oldest civil rights organization.


In greeting the group, McCain praised Democrat Barack Obama's historic campaign, but said the Illinois senator is wrong to oppose school vouchers for students in failing public schools. It is time, McCain said, to use vouchers and other tools like merit pay for teachers to break from conventional thinking on educational policy.


Obama, he said, has dismissed support for private school vouchers for low-income Americans.


"All of that went over well with the teachers union, but where does it leave families and their children who are stuck in failing schools?" the Arizona senator asked. "No entrenched bureaucracy or union should deny parents that choice and children that opportunity."


In fact, Obama has spoken in favor of performance-based merit pay for individual public school teachers, even telling the National Education Association, the country's largest teachers union, in a speech last year that the idea should be considered.


McCain received mostly polite applause in a room with some empty seats, two days after Obama's enthusiastic reception from a standing-room only audience hoping to see him become the first black president.


In his speech, McCain lauded Martin Luther King, Jr., as a leader who "loved and honored his country even when the feeling was unreturned, and counseled others to do the same."


In praising King to the NAACP, McCain used language similar to his mea culpa in April on the 40th anniversary of the civil rights leader's assassination, saying he had been wrong to vote against a federal holiday honoring King.


The NAACP gathering on Monday heard from Obama, who said he would push the government to provide more education and economic assistance, but he also drew big cheers when he urged blacks to demand more of themselves.


"Whatever the outcome in November," McCain told the crowd Wednesday, "Senator Obama has achieved a great thing, for himself and for his country, and I thank him for it. ... Don't tell him I said this, but he is an impressive fellow in many ways."


During a question-and-answer session, McCain also sought to assuage a frustrated Head Start teacher who complained that her salary from the federal program simply isn't enough.


The woman, wearing a union T-shirt, said she was making $17,000 a year and cannot afford housing, gas, food, or health care for her children. "We cannot continue this way," she said.


McCain said the point of his education platform was to boost pay for "a great and outstanding teacher like you" and other educators who are passionate about their work.


"I want to reward good teachers," said McCain.



Members of the audience said afterward they were glad to have heard from McCain, even if it didn't change their minds.


"Winning votes, I'm not so sure, but friends, yes," the Rev. Ronald Terry, pastor of New Friendship Baptist Church in Macon, Ga., said of McCain's appearance.


Marjory Shields, a Penn State extension nutritionist from Croydon, Pa., said McCain said nothing to make her waver from her support of Obama.


"I gave him the courtesy of listening to his platform. I thought that in order for me to make an informed vote this November I really need to hear what all the candidates have to say," Shields said.


"As far as my opinion on his speech, I feel he did not address certain key issues I wish he would have elaborated on," such as more specifics on education funding, she said.


McCain said vouchers and merit pay for teachers whose students perform well are two important ways to help kids in failing schools.


"After decades of hearing the same big promises from the public education establishment, and seeing the same poor results, it is surely time to shake off old ways and to demand new reforms," he said. "That isn't just my opinion. It is the conviction of parents in poor neighborhoods across this nation who want better lives for their children."


Both the merit pay and voucher proposals have met stiff opposition from teachers unions. Obama has indicated he would support some kind of merit pay system for teachers, if teachers help craft it.


Later Wednesday, McCain traveled to Omaha, Neb., where he toured Werner Enterprises, a trucking company, and promoted his plan for a summer suspension of the federal gas tax to help drivers cope with surging fuel prices.


Werner executives said a yearlong gas tax holiday would save them about $40 million, which could be spent on making their trucks more efficient.


Asked what individuals could do to lower the price of gas, McCain said they "can practice conservation" and pressure Congress to allow more offshore drilling for oil.

___

Associated Press writer Terry Kinney contributed to this report.





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Monday, July 14, 2008

From war to war with Obama... part way out of Iraq and further into Afghanistan... this is unacceptable

-----Original Message-----

From: WCS-A@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WCS-A@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Maki

Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:49 PM

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Subject: From war to war with Obama... part way out of Iraq and further into Afghanistan... this is unacceptable

Does anyone really find going from one war to another war “progressive”?

Well, read Obama’s Opinion Piece in the New York Times which I have reprinted at the bottom of this e-mail.

Is this going from one imperialist war to the next acceptable to liberals and progressives?

Where is the outcry from the organization “Progressives for Obama” and others who have endorsed Obama without criticism or any kind of requirements?

The 2008 Elections are proving to be very confusing… we have some tremendous opportunities opening up before us with so many people so overwhelmingly disgusted with Bush and the Republicans; will we, as liberals and progressives, be able to get maximum gain from the opening before us?

Here is the way I look at the problem.

What I would like to try to figure out is how we build a bridge of liberals/progressives/leftists to the Obama Administration in a way where the needs of people for peace and social & economic justice take precedence over the warmongering, anti-labor, big-business interests now influencing Obama in a way that has put him completely out of touch, and out of reach, from ordinary people.

At the same time, we have vicious reactionaries who would like to sow confusion among people who are fed up--- fed up with the robbery at the pumps; fed up with wars, fed up with declining standards of living; fed up with our democratic rights being trampled on; fed up with global warming. In short, people are just plain fed up with just about everything.

The ultra-right is sowing confusion using racism and anti-communism… just as they have always done.

Many people, after getting their pay checks and paying some of their bills and trying to buy groceries, don’t even have enough money left over from their pay-checks to get them back to work; they have no savings in the bank nor under their mattresses. There is now a crisis of everyday living for many working people--- this is no exaggeration and we all know it. In fact, for people experiencing problems like trying to meet their mortgage payments and trying to pay their family’s health care bills they will probably tell you I am not adequately conveying their concerns and anger.

I thought this election was supposed to be about shifting the decision-making process away from corporate America while bringing the people into the decision-making process of government.

“Solutions,” and notice I put this word in quotes; but, solutions which create greater financial burdens and stress on working people already hurting are unacceptable--- “solutions” like health care reforms which entail so-called “affordable” premiums; no premiums are acceptable--- or affordable… remember, people aren’t even considering winter heating bills for the upcoming cold months… these bills are going to be real shockers and home heating assistance has already been cut as costs for home heating fuels will skyrocket before the cold arrives.

In my opinion, the longer we delay and procrastinate in organizing rank-and-file and grassroots activity among working people, the greater the gap becomes between Barack Obama and the people… unless we begin closing this gap now, we are going to have a huge chasm to bridge after the election; no matter how huge the landslide.

It seems to me that since Barack Obama, in his own book, has indicated a great deal of respect for the thinking of Frank Marshal Davis, we should be organizing study groups around Frank Marshall Davis’ two books, “Livin’ the Blues; Memoirs of a Black Journalist and Poet” and “The Writings of Frank Marshall Davis; A Voice of the Black Press.” This will help create a common ground for us to reach out to Barack Obama and the Obama Administration… it is quite apparent Obama is way out of reach of ordinary citizens right now.

A few “labor leaders” may have his ear… but, they are as out of touch with the reality of the lives of most working people as any corporate CEO.
As Lynn Williams, the former President of the United Steel Workers union has observed; rank and file initiatives are going to be the only way out of this mess.

Perhaps if we take Obama at his word, and accept his invitation, that he would like us to participate in the Democratic Party’s “Platform” creation by holding local get togethers in our neighborhoods, where we work and go to school; we can develop resolutions in keeping with the thinking of Frank Marshall Davis, and Barack Obama will be more receptive to our concerns because we will be speaking to him on common ground.

Here is what is posted on the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/08/obama-lets-voters-take-pa_n_111369.html

WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Committee and Barack Obama's presidential campaign will hold meetings in all 50 states to get voters more involved in developing the party platform.

Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano will chair the Platform Drafting Committee, the DNC and the Obama campaign were scheduled to announce Tuesday. The committee will invite members of the public to attend meetings around the country, with policy experts and other Democratic officials on hand to answer questions.

Both political parties produce a platform, or statement of its principles, each presidential election year. In the past, the DNC has held a limited number of public meetings around the country to seek input on the document, generally from advocacy organizations or research groups.

Voters can go to Obama's campaign Web site, to sign up to host one of the meetings, which will take place July 19-27. The drafting committee will receive a report with input from the meetings Aug. 1 before assembling a draft platform in Cleveland on Aug. 2-3. http://www.barackobama.com

The draft will serve as a working document for the full Platform Committee, which will meet Aug. 9 in Pittsburgh to consider and vote on the document. Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, former New Mexico Attorney General Patricia Madrid and former Discovery Communications President and CEO Judith McHale are co-chairs of the committee.

The disclosure that the DNC and Obama's campaign would seek broad voter input on the platform came on the heels of the announcement that Obama would accept the Democratic nomination at Denver's Invesco Field at Mile High, a 76,000-seat, open-air stadium that is home to the Denver Broncos, instead of at the smaller Pepsi Center, official site for the party's national convention Aug. 25-28.

"Barack Obama believes that every American should be able to contribute to the Democratic platform, just as record numbers have participated in this campaign," deputy campaign manager Steve Hildebrand said.


We are all “experts” on the problems we are experiencing… the time has come to put the faces of living, breathing human beings to the facts and statistics in a way that Obama will not be able to ignore.

Read this article below and if you are still hesitating and procrastinating in getting involved in rank-and-file and grassroots organizing, I suggest you read this article from the New York Times because I don’t think most of us want to exchange the war in Iraq for an even more costly, more destructive and more deadly war in Afghanistan.

The “Frank Marshall Davis Roundtable for Change” will be distributing sample resolutions on many issues in keeping with the request for our involvement being made, above, by Barack Obama in the Huffington Post.

HTTP://WWW.NYTIMES.COM/2008/07/14/OPINION/14OBAMA.HTML?EM&EX=1216180800&EN=1E19335BE0E1E1C9&EI=5087%0A


OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR

My Plan for Iraq

By BARACK OBAMA

Published: July 14, 2008

CHICAGO — The call by Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki for a timetable for the removal of American troops from Iraq presents an enormous opportunity. We should seize this moment to begin the phased redeployment of combat troops that I have long advocated, and that is needed for long-term success in Iraq and the security interests of the United States.

The differences on Iraq in this campaign are deep. Unlike Senator John McCain, I opposed the war in Iraq before it began, and would end it as president. I believed it was a grave mistake to allow ourselves to be distracted from the fight against Al Qaeda and the Taliban by invading a country that posed no imminent threat and had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. Since then, more than 4,000 Americans have died and we have spent nearly $1 trillion. Our military is overstretched. Nearly every threat we face — from Afghanistan to Al Qaeda to Iran — has grown.

In the 18 months since President Bush announced the surge, our troops have performed heroically in bringing down the level of violence. New tactics have protected the Iraqi population, and the Sunni tribes have rejected Al Qaeda — greatly weakening its effectiveness.

But the same factors that led me to oppose the surge still hold true. The strain on our military has grown, the situation in Afghanistan has deteriorated and we’ve spent nearly $200 billion more in Iraq than we had budgeted. Iraq’s leaders have failed to invest tens of billions of dollars in oil revenues in rebuilding their own country, and they have not reached the political accommodation that was the stated purpose of the surge.

The good news is that Iraq’s leaders want to take responsibility for their country by negotiating a timetable for the removal of American troops. Meanwhile, Lt. Gen. James Dubik, the American officer in charge of training Iraq’s security forces, estimates that the Iraqi Army and police will be ready to assume responsibility for security in 2009.

Only by redeploying our troops can we press the Iraqis to reach comprehensive political accommodation and achieve a successful transition to Iraqis’ taking responsibility for the security and stability of their country. Instead of seizing the moment and encouraging Iraqis to step up, the Bush administration and Senator McCain are refusing to embrace this transition — despite their previous commitments to respect the will of Iraq’s sovereign government. They call any timetable for the removal of American troops “surrender,” even though we would be turning Iraq over to a sovereign Iraqi government.

But this is not a strategy for success — it is a strategy for staying that runs contrary to the will of the Iraqi people, the American people and the security interests of the United States. That is why, on my first day in office, I would give the military a new mission: ending this war.

As I’ve said many times, we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. We can safely redeploy our combat brigades at a pace that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 — two years from now, and more than seven years after the war began. After this redeployment, a residual force in Iraq would perform limited missions: going after any remnants of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, protecting American service members and, so long as the Iraqis make political progress, training Iraqi security forces. That would not be a precipitous withdrawal.

In carrying out this strategy, we would inevitably need to make tactical adjustments. As I have often said, I would consult with commanders on the ground and the Iraqi government to ensure that our troops were redeployed safely, and our interests protected. We would move them from secure areas first and volatile areas later. We would pursue a diplomatic offensive with every nation in the region on behalf of Iraq’s stability, and commit $2 billion to a new international effort to support Iraq’s refugees.

Ending the war is essential to meeting our broader strategic goals, starting in Afghanistan and Pakistan, where the Taliban is resurgent and Al Qaeda has a safe haven. Iraq is not the central front in the war on terrorism, and it never has been. As Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, recently pointed out, we won’t have sufficient resources to finish the job in Afghanistan until we reduce our commitment to Iraq.

As president, I would pursue a new strategy, and begin by providing at least two additional combat brigades to support our effort in Afghanistan. We need more troops, more helicopters, better intelligence-gathering and more nonmilitary assistance to accomplish the mission there. I would not hold our military, our resources and our foreign policy hostage to a misguided desire to maintain permanent bases in Iraq.

In this campaign, there are honest differences over Iraq, and we should discuss them with the thoroughness they deserve. Unlike Senator McCain, I would make it absolutely clear that we seek no presence in Iraq similar to our permanent bases in South Korea, and would redeploy our troops out of Iraq and focus on the broader security challenges that we face. But for far too long, those responsible for the greatest strategic blunder in the recent history of American foreign policy have ignored useful debate in favor of making false charges about flip-flops and surrender.

It’s not going to work this time. It’s time to end this war.

Barack Obama, a United States senator from Illinois, is the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.


Again, I don’t think most of us want to exchange the war in Iraq for an even more costly, more destructive and more deadly war in Afghanistan.

As I stated, the “Frank Marshall Davis Roundtable for Change” will be distributing sample resolutions on many issues in keeping with the request for involvement being made by Barack Obama in the Huffington Post.



For the Frank Marshall Davis Roundtable for Change;

Alan L. Maki
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Warroad, Minnesota 56763
Phone: 218-386-2432
Cell phone: 651-587-5541
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Friday, July 11, 2008

Obama's fraudulent health care reform

I sent this e-mail to Dr. Hart of the Minnesota Universal Health Care Coalition (MUHCC).

It looks to me like what we are dealing with here is another one of Nancy Pelosi's "what we are going to do in our first one-hundred days if you give us a House and Senate majority."

As you know, voters provided this majority in both the House and Senate... in return the American people received the dirty end of the stick and got shafted by the Democrats who feared standing up to George Bush so they went along to get along... the problem is, these Democrats were really acquiescing to big-business and their lobbyists... the very same well-heeled interests who have their clutches into Barack Obama... given this situation, the only way working people are going to have a snowball's chance in hell of getting anything out of an Obama administration is if we keep our distance from him while building massive movements capable of forcing Obama and the Democrats to the "negotiating table" on these important issues like health care reform and ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Failing to push Obama for socialized health care with single-payer universal health care being the first step is the only way to go.

I would also point out that Brian Melendez, the Chair of the Minnesota Democratic Farmer-Labor Party, has repeatedly portrayed Barack Obama as the candidate supporting the position of the MN DFL on health care. Is this Obama surrogate just lying to Minnesotans to get their votes?

Many people are apparently "thrilled" with Obama's campaign of "hope" and "change."

So far the admission price to hear Obama's meaningless, undefined rhetoric has been free for cheers and claps.

If voters decide to follow Obama's lead as he refused to show up for votes in the Senate on controversial issues people may decide with the price of gas the trip to the polls just isn't worth it.

With the high price of gas the high-paid party hacks are finding it hard to get people out to leaflet and talk to voters.

Obama's campaign could follow the lead of the corrupt politicians of the Red Lake Nation and pay to fill-up the tank in return for a vote.

Alan

-----Original Message-----

From: Alan Maki [mailto:amaki000@centurytel.net]

Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 12:04 PM

To: 'Jim Hart'

Cc: 'Carolyn Laine'; 'lhilty@frontiernet.net'; 'John T (Jack) Garland'; 'RhodaGilman@mngreens.org'; 'Elizabeth Frost'; 'settg001@umn.edu'; 'Ida Hellander'; 'dave@pnhp.org'; 'shove001@tc.umn.edu'; 'kiprs@usinternet.com'; 'info@pnhp.org'

Subject: Obama on health care

Dr. Hart,

Previously you told me the Marty legislation was single-payer universal health care and it fit in with Obama’s proposals for health care reform.

Check out the article below, and what I have highlighted.

I am very puzzled how this can be since Obama is opposed to what you are for.

Also, I would note that Obama claims to be stressing “prevention;” yet one of the biggest bank-rollers of his campaign is the Indian Gaming and the larger Casino industries. The Indian Gaming Industry employs over two-million workers; the other casino industry employs even more. Just about all employees work in smoke-filled casinos, with second-hand smoke being among the main causes of a multitude of diseases and illnesses; so much for “prevention.”

It would seem to me that MUHCC has a responsibility to meet with Obama’s campaign staff here in Minnesota and make yourselves clear that you feel he is headed in the wrong direction on health care.

To give Obama a free ride into the White House as he advocates health care “reform” that is completely at odds with what we want and the people are clamoring for makes no sense; this is not the way to win important concessions and reforms from Obama who is clearly the candidate of choice of big-capital at this point.

Since Obama indicates health care reform is one of the top two items on his agenda for resolution, I think that MUHCC should kind of become the Floyd B. Olson of the moment just as the Governor became the “thorn in Roosevelt’s side on the health care issue. MUHCC should insist on meeting with Obama the next time he is in Minnesota so you have an open door to the White House on this issue.

Obama is obviously at odds with what Minnesotans want in the way of health care reform; apparently Obama is selling “free enterprise” solutions to the health care mess out west because it is a “me, me, me” and “my right to do whatever I want, to whomever I want, without government interference” that gets the votes out west.

Minnesotans clearly want what the Canadians have.

Alan


Obama: End the war, pass energy policy and health care
reform

by By Mike Dennison of The Standard State Bureau -

The Montana Standard - July 5, 2008

http://www.mtstandard.com/articles/2008/07/05/state_top/20080705_state_top.txt

For his first task as president, Barack Obama said
Friday he'll call in the nation's top military
officials and "tell them we have a new mission": End
the war in Iraq
.

Next on the list is reforming the nation's health-care
system, so everyone in the nation has basic health care
and costs are reduced for families and businesses
.


And, third, craft a new energy policy that "requires a
shift away from the sort of wasteful energy usage of
the past, and to develop alternative fuels like solar,
wind and biodiesel," Obama said in an interview on his
campaign bus near the Montana Tech campus.

Obama, 46, a U.S. senator from Illinois and the
presumptive Democratic nominee for president this year,
spent the day in Butte, taking in a Fourth of July
parade and attending a picnic with hundreds of well-
wishers and supporters.

But he also took time to chat with local reporters,
both on his bus and on the grounds of the World Museum
of Mining, standing before a small grove of aspen trees
that wavered in the breeze preceding an afternoon
thunderstorm.

Obama said he has a good chance of winning in Montana
because people are struggling here and will respond to
his message of change and reform, to stop the war in
Iraq, to reduce the weight of energy prices and ensure
access to public lands.

Obama has been polling strongly in several Western
states where Democrats traditionally lose in
presidential elections, Montana included.

Yet Republicans have signaled they certainly won't be
rolling over in these states, and will go after Obama
on at least one issue dear to the hearts of many
Montanans: Gun ownership.

Earlier this week, the Montana Republican Party called
on Obama to "clarify his muddled record on the 2nd
Amendment," saying Obama has a record of supporting
restrictions on gun ownership.

Obama said Friday he believes in "common-sense gun
laws" allow law-abiding citizens to purchase and own
firearms, including items such as background checks
when buying guns.

"There is not a sportsman or hunter in Montana who is a
legal possessor of firearms that has anything to worry
about from me," he said.

Regarding the war in Iraq, Obama repeated his call for
bringing home U.S. troops in a "careful and deliberate
fashion," consulting with the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

On health care, he said he wants a system that
regulates insurers more stiffly and helps people who
can't afford health insurance acquire it. But he's not
in favor of a national, single-payer system like Canada

or other countries, that offer the same care for all,
usually financed by taxes.

"The problem is, we've got a legacy of employer-based
health care," he said. "People are accustomed to those
sorts of arrangements and they're fearful about what
they might have to give up in a transition to a
different system." Obama said his plan works within the
system we have now, offering "alternatives" to families
who can't get insurance now and finding ways to lower
premiums for all.


"And we've got to emphasize prevention, which is the
most important thing we've got to do long-term
," he
added.

Obama also said his broad base of donors make him the
candidate who can stand up to well-heeled special
interests who have been controlling policy in the
country.

The Obama campaign doesn't accept money from political
action committees or from people who are federal
registered lobbyists. However, it has accepted tens of
millions of dollars from big individual donors
connected with insurance, Wall Street investment
houses, hedge funds, banks and pharmaceutical
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Monday, July 7, 2008

U.S. Okayed Korean War Massacres

I posted this blog yesterday and I have had numerous responses... so many responses that I have been up all night responding to e-mails and phone calls from all over the world... from Korea to China and Canada to Venezuela and Finland; from Boston to Oakland from Sudbury to Miami Beach.

Responses ranged from "both sides" did terrible things to "these killings were in response to what the communists did;" to "Stalin created the problem" to "the Soviet delegate to the United Nations did not show up and Malik's (the Soviet Delegate) vote could have prevented the Korean War."

But, the overwhelming majority of those I heard from told me they appreciated the new perspective I am shedding on this most disgraceful act of barbarism.

One has to ask: Why is it so difficult for the main stream media to call this what it was: POLITICAL REPRESSION. Murder. Barbarism.

Let us set the record straight as far as why Malik was not at the U.N. Security Council meeting... he was boycotting the meeting to protest the fact that the anti-communist, pro-American, pro-imperialist delegation was seated representing China and the Chinese people who had just been victorious under the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party in securing their homeland from imperialist domination and imperialist rule had successfully completed a socialist revolution putting China on the road to real freedom; freedom from exploitation and the rape of the country's resources which the United States and other imperialist powers had their greedy eyes on.

In short, the world was in turmoil as people everywhere were still celebrating their victories over Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo.

American workers were feeling their strength and their power and flexing their muscel at work and in politics under the leadership of the Communist Party USA... Truman had the leadership of the CPUSA shackled and chained... very literally.

In fact, all of these responses I received critical of what I wrote below about this article have absolutely nothing to do with the Korean War itself.

The United States brought a pro-imperialist, pro-capitalist government to power against the will of the overwhelming majority of the Korean people.

The Associated Press thinks we are all a bunch of dumb clucks to try and put a story over on us in this very well thought out deceitful manner.

The wholesale slaughter and butchering of human beings is nothing but the most atrocious form of political repression carried out for the single-minded purpose of smothering the democratic will of the overwhelming majority of the Korean people who wanted an anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist, socialist government.

What kind of fools does the main stream media take us for?

To round up this many people is not an act carried out with out considerable planning and forethought. Tremendous planning needs to take place. Informers have to provide names of people and tell these fascists who put together such a murderous plot against democracy and the people where people live and work... it is no small task rounding up so many people. Trenches have to be dug to bury the bodies.

This vicious, barbaric act of political repression could not have been carried out by the American puppets being brought into power... the United States had to be the master-mind and primary plotter of these sick and dirty murderous deeds.

Remember, only months before, these people who were murdered were OUR primary allies in the war with imperialist Japan. They are the ones who led the fight on the Korean Peninsula that routed the Japanese imperialists, only to face U.S. imperialist domination in the end.

These were not war crimes; these were crimes against humanity which were motivated by political repression against the patriotic people of Korea... their only crime was wanting to have the right to be full participants in a cooperatively run, democratic socialist society. This was these people's only "crime."

These human beings were murdered in cold blood only because they did not intend to allow the United States to take over their country in the exact same way the Japanese imperialists had done... the Japanese imposed a cruel regime of murder and repression on the Korean people; the United States intended to impose the exact same kind of government that the Korean people along with their Soviet and then American allies had driven from their country.

All throughout World War Two, General Douglas MacArthur, the United States government at the highest levels and the American people were fully aware that our greatest, best and most reliable allies in fighting the Japanese imperialist aggressors from among the Korean people were the Korean Communists... this was no secret. It was to the Korean Communists that arms and food was distributed through... it was the Communists who had the most reliable network to carry on the resistance struggle... everyone knew that at the conclusion of the War the Communist Party was going to be the strongest and most influential party in Korea.

It did not take the presence of Russian troops delivering Communist Manifestos to the Korean people... the revolutionary science of Marxism-Leninism had been well developed and promoted--- and accepted--- by the Korean people long before the Soviets arrived.

Socialism in Korea was on its way, World War Two or no war.

Socialist ideas were well established in the process of the Korean people resisting Japanese occupation of their country.

In fact, all over the world... the most reliable resistance to the fascist axis powers were the Communist parties... in Europe, in Asia.. and right inside the fascist powers themselves... the armed and political resistance was carried on primarily under the leadership of the Communist parties.

And it makes me sick to see the corporate controlled main stream media continue these to peddle their lies... what is just as sickening is to have those who call themselves liberals and progressives and even "Marxists" and "revolutionaries" not understand what took place as far as this political repression.

Whether or not the Soviet delegate was present for a U.N. Security Council meeting had nothing to do with this barbaric repression which was thought up, organized and carried out under the full and complete knowledge of the United States government and that worthless, cowardly piece of imperialist, fascist, crap--- General Douglas MacArthur.

In the name of democracy, such perverted and murderous campaigns have been orchestrated, planned and carried out by the United States government... the School of the Americas trains people to commit just such barbaric acts in the furtherance of U.S. imperialist domination.

From the Korean Peninsula to Spain and Greece to the streets of Chile to the jungles and rice paddies of Vietnam from South Africa to Palestine... the world's peoples have endured this kind of "delivery of democracy" to their countries... the motives are the same, corporate greed and conquest, the methods may very; but, in the end as people are on the verge of casting off the unbearable yoke of fascist and imperialist domination the American military and CIA chose the "ten cent solution" as the last resort... the trenches are dug, the people are shot, the bodies are buried, everyone in Washington holds up their hands and exclaims in unison, "We had no idea this was going on; our hands are clean." The cover-up proceeds. And fifty years later the skeletons appear.

In fact, every single administration--- bar none--- since Roosevelt's, and many before, has blood stained hands from having put down the democratic aspirations of the people in some country on the face of this globe.

The crimes of U.S. imperialism like this that is now just coming to light, the last few months in Korea, is but one more example of why we need to make sure that Barack Obama has his hands securely tied and restrained by the people to prevent such atrocities in the future.

To wait until after the election, as some suggest, for the American people to rise up and resist the drive to war with Iran, is only asking for one more imperialist blood-bath.

I say shame on those who look everywhere else except to their own government right here in Washington for excuses for the barbaric crimes of U.S. imperialism.

This is made in the USA:



These are the faces of the imperialist monsters responsible for these dirty deeds of political repression:





These are the courageous leaders of the Communist Party USA who had the courage to stand up and organize resistance to U.S. imperialism:



And these are a few of the rank and file workers and Communist Party members who faced job loss and years of political persecution for having courage to try to organize resistance to U.S. imperialism:



The faces of U.S. imperialism have changed... but the aims of U.S. imperialism have not:



From Korea to Iraq... the blood continues to flow; the barbaric criminality of U.S. imperialism knows no bounds, nor limits, as corporate profits are the objective of big-capital--- no limits except that to which U.S. imperialism is restrained by people united for real change:







The American people and people on every continent of our planet have paid a terrible price for the twin evils of racism and anti-communism being the ideological underpinnings of U.S. state monopoly capitalism as big-business extends its greedy fingers in quest of profits.

These mass graves now being "discovered" in Korea are nothing new--- part of a long, long trail of injustices... from stealing the lands of First Nations Peoples to the oil fields of Iraq... we need to unite for real change to create a new society based upon human needs, compassion, empathy and cooperation--- respect for all peoples... that society is called socialism; a society where private for-profit corporations will once and for all be abolished, and the motivation for killing people and shoving them into mass graves as politicians who ordered the killings scurry to cover up their dirty deeds has got to come to an end... it is capitalism which must be buried.


Alan L. Maki



What this Associated Press article fails to mention is one very important point:

Had Korea remained one united country, the Korean people would have created a unified socialist Korea; and, it was to prevent Korea from going communist where all problems arose... just like most world problems from the beginning of the Second World War on... Hitler was the "preeminent anti-communist;" but Harry Truman and General Douglas MacArthur were not far behind Hitler in this respect.

Korean communists led the struggle against Japanese imperialism; therefore, at the conclusion of the Second World War, communists were the strongest and most influential political force in Korea.

General Douglas McArthur, who, first, ran like a coward from the Japanese in the Philippines, then "returned" after the Japanese imperialists had become entrenched... rolled up his pants and waded onto the beach after thousands of his men had been slaughtered, and posed for photographers.

This same gutless coward, General Douglas McArthur, who had mowed down American servicemen in the shadows of the White House demanding their "bonuses" from World War One; McArthur stood by, not only turned his back on the executions of the very courageous Korean communists who had only shortly before helped the U.S. military efforts in defeating Japan; but as everyone knows, he approved and sanctioned this barbaric, murderous repression of Korean Communists--- poor peasants and working people.

We are talking about the mass slaughter of human beings for their political ideas.

People who were heroes for their courageous fighting ability against the Japanese imperialists were somehow demonized and turned into "criminals" when they wanted to be masters of their own destiny and refused to submit to the exploitation and dictates of capitalists.

What is also not stated, is those whom the Russians executed, were war criminals in the full sense of the word, just like any Nazi war criminal... these traitors were responsible for aiding the Japanese imperialists in carrying out some of the most heinous and atrocious war crimes against humanity--- perpetrated against their fellow countrymen fighting to free their country from Japanese domination.

Dah... the Soviets were in Korea as American and British allies per the Allied agreement between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin to drive the Japanese from the Korea; not to occupy Korean Peninsula--- a "little fact" missing from this Associated Press story.

A massive Korean people's movement of workers and peasants was in progress over who would govern Korea after the Japanese were defeated. Remember--- the Japanese occupied Korea through the Second World War.

The "great" Harry Truman made the decision that Korean peasants and workers who sacrificed to drive the Japanese out, didn't have the right to determine their own destiny after the war and he chose to murder these workers and peasants in cold blood just as Hitler had done to millions of Communists.

With this real history in mind, read this sickening story.

It has taken "democracy" over fifty years to come clean with the truth.




AP: U.S. Okayed Korean War Massacres Associated Press

Published: Saturday July 5, 2008

SEOUL The American colonel, troubled by what he was hearing, tried to stall at first. But the declassified record shows he finally told his South Korean counterpart it "would be permitted" to machine-gun 3,500 political prisoners, to keep them from joining approaching enemy forces.

In the early days of the Korean War, other American officers observed, photographed and confidentially reported on such wholesale executions by their South Korean ally, a secretive slaughter believed to have killed 100,000 or more leftists and supposed sympathizers, usually without charge or trial, in a few weeks in mid-1950.

Extensive archival research by The Associated Press has found no indication Far East commander Gen. Douglas MacArthur took action to stem the summary mass killing, knowledge of which reached top levels of the Pentagon and State Department in Washington, where it was classified "secret" and filed away.

Now, a half-century later, the South Korean government's Truth and Reconciliation Commission is investigating what happened in that summer of terror, a political bloodbath largely hidden from history, unlike the communist invaders' executions of southern rightists, which were widely publicized and denounced at the time.

In the now-declassified record at the U.S. National Archives and other repositories, the Korean investigators will find an ambivalent U.S. attitude in 1950 — at times hands-off, at times disapproving.

"The most important thing is that they did not stop the executions," historian Jung Byung-joon, a member of the 2-year-old commission, said of the Americans. "They were at the crime scene, and took pictures and wrote reports."

They took pictures in July 1950 at the slaughter of dozens of men at one huge killing field outside the central city of Daejeon. Between 3,000 and 7,000 South Koreans are believed to have been shot there by their own military and police, and dumped into mass graves, said Kim Dong-choon, the commission member overseeing the investigation of these government killings.

The bones of Koh Chung-ryol's father are there somewhere, and the 57-year-old woman believes South Koreans alone are not to blame.

"Although we can't present concrete evidence, we bereaved families believe the United States has some responsibility for this," she told the AP, as she visited one of the burial sites in the quiet Sannae valley.

Frank Winslow, a military adviser at Daejeon in those desperate days long ago, is one American who feels otherwise.

The Koreans were responsible for their own actions, said the retired Army lieutenant colonel, 81. "The Koreans were sovereign. To me, there was never any question that the Koreans were in charge," he said in a telephone interview from his home in Bellingham, Wash.

The brutal, hurried elimination of tens of thousands of their countrymen, subject of a May 19 AP report, was the climax to a years-long campaign by South Korea's right-wing leaders.

In 1947, two years after Washington and Moscow divided Korea into southern and northern halves, a U.S. military government declared the Korean Labor Party, the southern communists, to be illegal. President Syngman Rhee's southern regime, gaining sovereignty in 1948, suppressed all leftist political activity, put down a guerrilla uprising and held up to 30,000 political prisoners by the time communist North Korea invaded on June 25, 1950.

As war broke out, southern authorities also rounded up members of the 300,000-strong National Guidance Alliance, a "re-education" body to which they had assigned leftist sympathizers, and whose membership quotas also were filled by illiterate peasants lured by promises of jobs and other benefits.

Commission investigators, extrapolating from initial evidence and surveys of family survivors, believe most alliance members were killed in the wave of executions.

On June 29, 1950, as the southern army and its U.S. advisers retreated southward, reports from Seoul said the conquering northerners had emptied the southern capital's prisons, and ex-inmates were reinforcing the new occupation regime.

In a confidential narrative he later wrote for Army historians, Lt. Col. Rollins S. Emmerich, a senior U.S. adviser, described what then happened in the southern port city of Busan, formerly known as Pusan.

Emmerich was told by a subordinate that a South Korean regimental commander, determined to keep Busan's political prisoners from joining the enemy, planned "to execute some 3500 suspected peace time Communists, locked up in the local prison," according to the declassified 78-page narrative, first uncovered by the newspaper Busan Ilbo at the U.S. National Archives.

Emmerich wrote that he summoned the Korean, Col. Kim Chong-won, and told him the enemy would not reach Busan in a few days as Kim feared, and that "atrocities could not be condoned."

But the American then indicated conditional acceptance of the plan.

"Colonel Kim promised not to execute the prisoners until the situation became more critical," wrote Emmerich, who died in 1986. "Colonel Kim was told that if the enemy did arrive to the outskirts of (Busan) he would be permitted to open the gates of the prison and shoot the prisoners with machine guns."

This passage, omitted from the published Army history, is the first documentation unearthed showing advance sanction by the U.S. military for such killings.

"I think his (Emmerich's) word is so significant," said Park Myung-lim, a South Korean historian of the war and adviser to the investigative commission.

As that summer wore on, and the invaders pressed their attack on the southern zone, Busan-area prisoners were shot by the hundreds, Korean and foreign witnesses later said.

Emmerich wrote that soon after his session with Kim, he met with South Korean officials in Daegu, 55 miles (88 kilometers) north of Busan, and persuaded them "at that time" not to execute 4,500 prisoners immediately, as planned. Within weeks, hundreds were being executed in the Daegu area.

The bloody anticommunist purge, begun immediately after the invasion, is believed by the fall of 1950 to have filled some 150 mass graves in secluded spots stretching to the peninsula's southernmost counties. Commissioner Kim said the commission's estimate of 100,000 dead is "very conservative." The commission later this month will resume excavating massacre sites, after having recovered remains of more than 400 people at four sites last year.

The AP has extensively researched U.S. military and diplomatic archives from the Korean War in recent years, at times relying on once-secret documents it obtained through Freedom of Information Act requests and declassification reviews. The declassified U.S. record and other sources offer further glimpses of the mass killings.

A North Korean newspaper said 1,000 prisoners were slain in Incheon, just west of Seoul, in late June 1950 — a report partly corroborated by a declassified U.S. Eighth Army document of July 1950 saying "400 Communists" had been killed in Incheon. The North Korean report claimed a U.S. military adviser had given the order.

As the front moved south, in July's first days, Air Force intelligence officer Donald Nichols witnessed and photographed the shooting of an estimated 1,800 prisoners in Suwon, 20 miles south of Seoul, Nichols reported in a little-noted memoir in 1981, a decade before his death.

Around the same time, farther south, the Daejeon killings began.

Winslow recalled he declined an invitation to what a senior officer called the "turkey shoot" outside the city, but other U.S. officers did attend, taking grisly photos of the human slaughter that would be kept classified for a half-century.

Journalist Alan Winnington, of the British communist Daily Worker newspaper, entered Daejeon with North Korean troops after July 20 and reported that the killings were carried out for three days in early July and two or three days in mid-July.

He wrote that his witnesses claimed jeeploads of American officers "supervised the butchery." Secret CIA and Army intelligence communications reported on the Daejeon and Suwon killings as early as July 3, but said nothing about the U.S. presence or about any U.S. oversight.

In mid-August, MacArthur, in Tokyo, learned of the mass shooting of 200 to 300 people near Daegu, including women and a 12- or 13-year-old girl. A top-secret Army report from Korea, uncovered by AP research, told of the "extreme cruelty" of the South Korean military policemen. The bodies fell into a ravine, where hours later some "were still alive and moaning," wrote a U.S. military policeman who happened on the scene.

Although MacArthur had command of South Korean forces from early in the war, he took no action on this report, other than to refer it to John J. Muccio, U.S. ambassador in South Korea. Muccio later wrote that he urged South Korean officials to stage executions humanely and only after due process of law.

The AP found that during this same period, on Aug. 15, Brig. Gen. Francis W. Farrell, chief U.S. military adviser to the South Koreans, recommended the U.S. command investigate the executions. There was no sign such an inquiry was conducted. A month later, the Daejeon execution photos were sent to the Pentagon in Washington, with a U.S. colonel's report that the South Koreans had killed "thousands" of political prisoners.

The declassified record shows an equivocal U.S. attitude continuing into the fall, when Seoul was retaken and South Korean forces began shooting residents who collaborated with the northern occupiers.

When Washington's British allies protested, Dean Rusk, assistant secretary of state, told them U.S. commanders were doing "everything they can to curb such atrocities," according to a Rusk memo of Oct. 28, 1950.

But on Dec. 19, W.J. Sebald, State Department liaison to MacArthur, cabled Secretary of State Dean Acheson to say MacArthur's command viewed the killings as a South Korean "internal matter" and had "refrained from taking any action."

It was the British who took action, according to news reports at the time. On Dec. 7, in occupied North Korea, British officers saved 21 civilians lined up to be shot, by threatening to shoot the South Korean officer responsible. Later that month, British troops seized "Execution Hill," outside Seoul, to block further mass killings there.

To quiet the protests, the South Koreans barred journalists from execution sites and the State Department told diplomats to avoid commenting on atrocity reports. Earlier, the U.S. Embassy in London had denounced as "fabrication" Winnington's Daily Worker reporting on the Daejeon slaughter. The Army eventually blamed all the thousands of Daejeon deaths on the North Koreans, who in fact had carried out executions of rightists there and elsewhere.

An American historian of the Korean War, the University of Chicago's Bruce Cumings, sees a share of U.S. guilt in what happened in 1950.

"After the fact — with thousands murdered — the U.S. not only did nothing, but covered up the Daejeon massacres," he said.

Another Korean War scholar, Allan R. Millett, an emeritus Ohio State professor, is doubtful. "I'm not sure there's enough evidence to pin culpability on these guys," he said, referring to the advisers and other Americans.

The swiftness and nationwide nature of the 1950 roundups and mass killings point to orders from the top, President Rhee and his security chiefs, Korean historians say. Those officials are long dead, and Korean documentary evidence is scarce.

To piece together a fuller story, investigators of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission will sift through tens of thousands of pages of declassified U.S. documents.

The commission's mandate extends to at least 2010, and its president, historian Ahn Byung-ook, expects to turn then to Washington for help in finding the truth.

"Our plan is that when we complete our investigation of cases involving the U.S. Army, we'll make an overall recommendation, a request to the U.S. government to conduct an overall investigation," he said. Charles J. Hanley and Jae-Soon Chang, The Associated Press