My point is: How does socialized health care ever get put on the table for discussion if socialists don't put it there? I have found, once explained side by side with all other proposals, most people will chose socialized health care when it is explained that public education is the model for it.
There is a difference between working with people who currently support Obamacare and Medicare for All and not bringing forward socialized health care.
We can see here on my Facebook page how people have been misled into supporting Obamacare and Medicare for All because their main proponents are dishonest.
All kinds of people try to tell me single-payer/Medicare for All is the same as socialized health care.
A big part of working with people is explaining these things in a truthful way--- the proponents of Obamacare and Medicare for All are afraid of the truth and as we can see, they try to bully the proponents of socialized health care into silence with the intent of forcing people to support Obamacare and Medicare for All.
Medicare has some good features but it also has many very, very bad features people like Bernie Sanders are adamantly opposed to discussing and they try to stymie this discussion.
If they were honest, they would at least tolerate a discussion about a National Public Health Care System and explain from their point of view why what they support is better... of course, the facts--- these little things politicians don't seem to have much use for--- prove that socialized health care is far superior to all other forms of health care... am I correct in stating this or am I not?
I am being attacked by the Democrats simply because I am advocating for socialized health care and comparing it to Obamacare and Medicare for All.
Socialists should be advancing socialized health care not bending to supporting systems that are based on the the free-market, for-profit and private delivery of health care.
The ideological struggle is really the biggest and most important part of any struggle and this applies to the struggle for health care reform, too.
The Democrats will tolerate Bernie Sanders claiming to be a socialist as long as he doesn't advocate socialist solutions to problems... the Democrat's main party hack, George Lakoff, has made this very clear in his latest book, "Blueprint," which is nothing but an anti-socialist/anti-Communist/anti-Marxist diatribe.
Sure there is controversy in bringing forward socialist ideas like socialized health care but we need to bring this into the discussion--- this is the role of socialists.
In fact, because socialized health care is so popular it has the best chance of bringing together the kind of numbers of people required to win the struggle for health care reform.
Of course, the Democratic Party hacks who like to talk about "properly framing issues" to get votes would like it if we don't say we need community and neighborhood health care centers dispensing free health care instead of over 800 foreign U.S. military bases dotting the globe protecting Wall Street's interests. Real socialists will bring this forward... phony socialists will not.